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Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad ([personal profile] aquilus) wrote in [community profile] abraxaslogs2023-04-10 05:26 pm

(open) we made a war front, we built a battleground

Who: Altaïr & OTA
What: Open log for April
When: Mostly prior to the mini-event
Where: Horizon & in and around Cadens



Open and likely eventually closed prompts below — I'm happy to match prose or [action tag] format
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[personal profile] godshattering 2023-04-18 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
There's the urge to look back over his shoulder at the fortress or maybe out further out along to either side of where they stand, both being possible options to appraise the grounds with new eyes with this revelation. There's importance behind it all, not least of all the mention of hiding in plain sight. A creed. Curious - the assassins he knows are led only by coin purses.

Since he's not looking at the buildings or at Masyaf, that leaves Altaïr in his line of sight. Once more he takes in the outfit, a careful combination of dress which he's not seen the other man wear before in the Horizon. There's meaning in clothing as much as everything else; it's difficult for Claude to not think of putting on the armor from his home and dodging questions about where it was from in Fodlan when it wasn't. Or the alterations he'd made to his clothes, daring someone to ask about them as well.

Not the same, though. Not really, as here Altaïr is inviting the questions and answering them. And unlike Claude, the other man's even volunteered important details first without being asked for them specifically.

"The blade really was something to behold." Because it feels like that bears repeating in that callback to the mountainside, to their training, to each time he's seen Altaïr with a weapon, and maybe providing some explanation back would help. "The assassins I know of from home are weapons for hire, but of a far less visible kind than mercenaries. Rather than taking on bandits or serving as protection, their targets are... people. Individuals. Specific ones." A pause, because there's the temptation to add he knows this from rather specific experience, but - "What you describe doesn't seem to be the same in terms of motivation."
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[personal profile] godshattering 2023-04-19 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
So much of his ability to have survived for this long relies on the ability to read people. To read situations as well, and to combine both with all of the possibilities of where they might go and to be ready for each. Altaïr's agitation, subdued as it is for what is from what he can see at first, tells another story all of its own. That gets Claude to raise an eyebrow as the rising tension in the other doesn't go unnoticed either. It's soon clear why.

Honorable assassins beholden to that creed - a new concept to him from his background, but a clear misstep in comparing the two from different worlds by name alone. "Hm. I wish the assassins sent after me when I was growing up had adhered to your code."

After he speaks Claude finally breaks eye contact to look up at Masyaf around them in contemplation. None of this is anything he finds worth holding against Altaïr - not that he had expected to, he also finds. Not with the meanings clearly different even if death is at the end of both paths from the sound of it, and even less so since he himself has the blood of innocents on his own hands. Perhaps a good time to make that clear even if it's not something he enjoys talking about - or having been responsible for. But that's the cost of war.

"Both of us have taken many lives in what sounds like was in the name of something better for the land. Or at least that's what I tried to keep as my guiding force in making it through the war to aim for better things, though many fell in the name of their own principles who I would've preferred hadn't."

Petra. Sylvain. Too many other classmates. He looks back to Altaïr again and gestures to the man's outfit. "Tell me about what you're wearing, if you will."
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[personal profile] godshattering 2023-04-21 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
From the corner of his eye Claude notes that surprise on the other man's face, fleeting as it seems to be and as easily missed as it could be by anyone not watching for it. That was, after all, a proclamation he hadn't entirely planned on making; a bitter secret only told to so few isn't normally at the top of his list of information to share.

But it felt relevant because it is relevant - something which couldn't go unmentioned since Claude knows himself too well and that had it not been then, it likely never would have been said aloud. It's a surprisingly easy wall to let go of when it comes to the many he's built around himself with all the sturdiness of the fortress they stand in meant to provide refuge to those who call it home before he looks back to Altaïr.

Clothing is then an easier topic in some ways, though it's a no less important one to Claude for how it can explain someone's home. Despite the knives gets a slight grin from him since he wordlessly agrees it would seem odd for a scholar as, say, a mapmaker, but by the end of the explanation of the robes he nods again. "There's different colors or cloth involved to denote rankings then if I'm hearing that correctly? That sounds not unlike our soldiers denoting their skills with weapons and armor, with the latter breaking down into more specialized kinds. The latter of which I possess myself as well."

It's only fair, he thinks, in the interest of sharing that he do the same. With the help of the Horizon, in the blink of an eye he changes into his Barbarossa armor rather than continuing to stand there in a shirt and trousers found in any average shop around Cadens. "I wore this during Fodlan's war after I inherited my title. This is from home - where I grew up, and it's normally the armor of warriors who ride wyverns. Not exactly one of Fodlan's traditions, but hardly anyone ever questioned me on it."

Not that he'd exactly hidden its origins, either. Though it's said as casually as ever, there's a thread of truth in there for Altaïr to follow should he choose to.
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[personal profile] godshattering 2023-04-23 03:14 pm (UTC)(link)
As Altaïr studies him Claude holds obligingly still so as to not interrupt the process, much as the other had done for him, and immense curiosity about everything means he can't help but wonder what it is Altaïr's thinking. Of course, Claude still holds all the information close to his chest - there is only one person in Abraxas who knows where he grew up. Maybe other reveals will come in time.

He can't help a grin near instantaneously at the mention of people seeing what they want to see. Something he's thought often while weaving various levels of subterfuge together while leaving just enough plausibility in each one, and said grin shifts to something a bit more knowing at taking advantage of it throughout. Another thing in common.

"I've found that people speak derisively of things they don't understand," he says while idly stretching his hands as if to break in his gloves. It's a real enough feeling as everything else is in the Horizon though he wishes he could have the actual pair again in Cadens. "Whether that's because they choose not to or they've never been presented with the opportunity - the end result is the same. It's far easier to spread misinformation than take the time to challenge something which has always been said."

Also all too familiar, though Altaïr's experiences and the reasons for it happening for him do differ. Interesting also that it involves the crossing of borders if he's hearing that correctly, and he considers that with the context of everything else learned. "I can see how this'd be advantageous for assassins in particular, even if the misunderstandings must still be an irritation."

Or more than that since he'd picked up on the derision after saying the incorrect thought aloud - Claude can relate to that, too.
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[personal profile] godshattering 2023-04-26 02:40 pm (UTC)(link)
It's easy to fall into step with Altaïr when he starts walking. It's a draw towards listening to the other man's words, beginning with the ability to change perceptions as that idea is one that brings a fleeting smile to his own face. If only because it was a centerpiece of his own plans for Fodlan, though it doesn't seem to be the same for Altaïr.

There's the first belief voiced which brings the reasons for not further into focus, and then there's more which follows. The instinct to raise an eyebrow is there but Claude resists it, instead staying quiet while he runs that all through his mind back and forth a few times.

"When you say that everything is permitted, is that to move against those acts allowed by others?" That seems like the best place to start even as curiosity (and not judgment) begs to ask more and more past that alone. There's a parallel, he thinks, to how the Church of Seiros had claimed something for Fodlan's history - only for the war to reveal that history had been rewritten to give the Church a place of power.

Everything may as well have been permitted to them, too. But. There is one more thought he finds too difficult to ignore while waiting for Altaïr's answer in wanting to get a better sense of what he's been told.

"In that war going on in your homeland - this philosophy also allows you to stay a version of neutral, between it and the rumors claiming you're something else entirely. You mentioned if those forces fighting knew of your intentions, they'd turn on you. Are you -" slight pause to furrow his brow while he tries to think of the right words to express the thought, then - "responsible for guiding them, or is it to reshape the land to your vision?"
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[personal profile] godshattering 2023-05-03 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Viewing the world as it is, and placing faith in choices made from doing so - that resonates with Claude and more so after moving against those who control the restriction of what's available. Too close to the Church of Seiros in ways he feels he has to compare even if Altaïr's world is vastly different.

That becomes quite clear in the sheer scale he's clued into when it comes to the Crusades. Not just one singular land mass as Claude considered Fodlan to be before it was collapsed from three nations into one but centuries, even more countries from the sound of it, and everyone believing their view is right. It's familiar even as it differs, and he hums a note of acknowledgement to show he's listening.

There's a moment where the furrow in his brow which has been there from thinking through everything Altaïr says deepens into a crease though he says nothing. It's not completely a frown even as it could tip that way since though Altaïr's stated - a few times - that his background as an assassin isn't the same as what Claude knows, this explanation certainly seems to brush up against it with the deaths of nine figures. But: Claude's no stranger to unfair judgments being cast from not enough information, and it's a good thing he says nothing before the last sentence Altaïr utters gets a lightly relieved exhale from him.

"Would you believe it if I told you then that I fought for the latter, that opening of minds, and let it seem like it was for land and power? Or I should say that it seemed like it was for land and power alone, as I certainly wanted both to be able to achieve my actual goals. Perhaps we would've been united in that."

It's simplifying much in the name of showing this much he understands of the other man's explanation and what guidance might be offered in the face of going against the prevailing views. There's more he could say on that - so much more - but there's something else to add first.

"So though you can't control the larger scheme of events, there's still ample chances for you to direct where things may yet go. That by felling those figures it just might yet allow the opportunity for change to happen."

And that is weighted with respect, considering the thought about the Church's hierarchy had occurred to him more than once.
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[personal profile] godshattering 2023-05-15 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
"I think I'd be grateful I seem consistent then, really."

Paired with a slight grin in Altaïr's direction on the matter of his actions supporting it - it's partly a tease and mostly an inside joke of sorts with himself when it comes to conveying actions through his words. A bit of showmanship still present with him from Fodlan to make sure that others are misdirected by what he says rather than what he might be doing, and yet that's something he finds himself compelled to do less and less around Altaïr.

The weight of honesty threading through everything they're telling each other, all those thoughts, memories, ways of life normally hidden from view: they're something Claude's not taking for granted. He knows what it costs him to share something not regularly revealed to just anyone, and is working with the assumption Altaïr is the same. It reinforces respect he already feels that much more.

"It sounds like the breaking of those things isn't something you took lightly." In confirmation of that or possibly reassurance as the tenets come to surface again, and now Claude has more understanding for each. He's silent as well; to change people for the better is a thought - a pledge he holds dear.

"There's much I've done that I would have rather avoided to uphold what I believe in - what I believed and still believe was best. But, even with the regrets I have, I would still make all those same choices over again if presented with them. Sometimes there's no way around what to do but to go through with it, for what little comfort that might offer."
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[personal profile] godshattering 2023-05-19 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Arrogant and proud, Altaïr says, with skills to support what was done despite being disliked - Claude hasn't been homesick in a while, but when that statement makes him think of Lorenz and what the other man had admitted to him, it hits him full force. It's not an accurate comparison - Lorenz had been infinitely less tolerable than Altaïr for years, for starters - but it's something he can relate to, someone he can recall being around. Even if he's supposed to dislike this, there's a fleeting smile crossing his face before he wipes it away considering the actual topic. Now's no time to make it look like anything about this is amusing at Altaïr's expense or otherwise.

Especially not when the breaking of the creed is explained a bit more to him, or so Claude thinks, and he watches Altaïr look into the distance. That's an expression he recognizes beyond it being one he's worn several times over - whatever's playing before the other man's eyes is something he won't know the entirety of for himself. He's been doing his best to listen with a neutral expression, but the reveal of the last Templar causes him to wince.

"I can't begin to imagine the betrayal that came along with finding that out." Betrayal might be a harsh word, but to have someone who'd humbled you into such a test and then to have that reveal? It's absolutely what he would've called it had it been Teach who'd been the one misleading Fodlan on top of the mess already wrought through all the lies. "And I think what I said still applies. 'Best' is a relative term when it comes to ones that will change your fate or someone else's and what that might cost."

Claude's silent for a pause while he thinks about that - applies it again to Petra, Sylvain, Felix. Marianne and Hilda in their own ways as they could've easily left his side at any time, and even more so as things became worse and worse with those prices to pay for their victories. Those still don't quite compare to what Altair's lived with that discovery at the end of the path he was placed on. "The man you mentioned, Al Mualim... was he hiding amongst you and intending to stay that way?"
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[personal profile] godshattering 2023-06-02 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
An artifact gets Claude's attention in near the same moment he regrets asking his question when that expression crosses over Altaïr's face. It's yet another one he recognizes from seeing it in passing on others time and time again, some shape of something painful and possibly left to lie where history's placed it. But it's too late for that, and so much like everything else he listens carefully. By the end his brow furrows once again in thought.

"Catastrophic seems like it would be too light of a word for what havoc could be wreaked," he murmurs, still thinking this through before he turns to look at Altaïr thoughtfully. "There's yet another similarity between us though who we had to prevent from upending the world as we knew it was not someone I'd once trusted. Not even someone I thought could possibly be around, really, since they should have been defeated centuries ago."

That's getting to be beside the point, one tangent too many that'd move too far away from what Altaïr is telling him, so Claude shakes his head. "This kind of betrayal from someone once trusted, let alone being the only one able to see what's really happening... the choices one has to make then aren't easy ones. I'm sure there's still weight from it you carry.

"For what it's worth, and not that any of us are looking to be absolved from something we have on our pasts or that it makes it easier to have lived, I think there are many who would have done the same as you. From the others I've spoken to it seems many of us have faced similar challenges that tested us and then had to live with the aftermath of what came after."
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[personal profile] godshattering 2023-06-10 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
There's much he could not have predicted about today. Though he'd arrived with the understanding there were questions he wanted answers to, there were ones he wouldn't have predicted in the course of the conversation that's unfolded between them. More parallels even as there's just as many branches for tangents and what's yet to be shared in other talks; in the heaviness that's come out today, those can certainly wait.

As Altaïr holds his hands up Claude glances at them in what's meant to be idle and in passing, though he's reminded once more of the blade from the mountains, the knives upon entering, and the skill with which all were wielded. The other man's faint smile is returned with one of his own.

"So you came here at a time of uncertainty," he says, half-asking and half-confirming that. There was a talk they had once of outcomes and changes in their lives leading to that point, and though Claude remembers he'd spoken a bit more about what he'd left behind in coming here - now he understands where Altaïr was coming from in this, too. "And one of unrest in the aftermath of what had to be done. That's a heavy burden to bring with in not knowing what might happen next."

Something he doesn't have to explain to the man carrying it, he knows, so Claude stops and holds a hand out in offering of a handshake. "Thank you for telling me all of this, Altaïr. I know there's no small amount of trust which goes into doing so and I appreciate it, my friend."

A genuine sentiment for the weight of everything and though he can't hope to shoulder any of it for his friend, the other sentiment behind that and everything else is also quite real: that Altaïr isn't alone if he doesn't want to be.
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[personal profile] godshattering 2023-06-25 03:33 pm (UTC)(link)
The return of the handshake gets a pleased look from him that's not quite a smile but it's close, and he's happy to also return it in kind with something that feels far more like a pact of sorts than one for a simple greeting or a farewell. Because it is, he supposes, in that they've both trusted the other enough to share what others likely don't know.

That pause after Altaïr gives his own gratitude is telling and he waits after letting his hand fall away to his side. It's not a long wait and the weight of what's being bestowed on him with those words isn't lost on Claude at all. This time when his smile returns it's yet again far more genuine than most would see.

"We have that in common as well. Where I came from... I was used to depending on myself and myself alone. That changed over time in the war, not only because it had to but because I found people I could count on and who understood me even when I didn't want to explain. One of the hardest parts of arriving here was finding myself without that and having to start over again."

A truth he's not admitted aloud to anyone else, what with all the context he'd have to explain behind it, but Altaïr will understand that as well, he thinks, even if how they've approached it has been both different and not. "Of everything unplanned and what the fates have dealt us, I count myself fortunate to have crossed paths with you. If neither of us belong nor do any of the others, then perhaps that just means by being called here we've found a place for all of us to be."
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[personal profile] godshattering 2023-06-29 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
That gets a nod from Claude as it's a sentiment he also has, completely down to this being nowhere they would have chosen. They each have things they wanted to accomplish, goals set to see through - and yet, nothing about that prevented them from arriving here.

But whatever humor was on his face in general good cheer fades away to be replaced with something far more serious to signal, hopefully, that despite his general disregard for most things surrounding propriety that this isn't something that falls into that. When it comes to that delicate balancing act of trust Claude understands it all too well.

"You have my word. What you've shared with me is yours and only yours to share, and to be shared when you want it to be." A pause where he considers the knowledge of Altaïr being an assassin - and how months ago he's not sure he would have been accepting himself for those reasons partially explained - and then he nods again. "I don't think there are many among us who haven't killed someone for either our own or other reasons, so if or when you do tell others: I hope they remember that instead of filling in their own conclusions."

One more clap of a hand to Altaïr's shoulder for reassurance or something not yet voiced, and with that he looks up at the sky before back to the other man. "I've taken up enough of your time today, I believe. But thank you, again, for speaking with me, and I promise for what I have left to tell you about myself that we'll speak of it another day, if you agree to that."

Something else Claude means to hold to as that's not a promise he offers many - but trust should go both ways. He's yet to fully fulfill his end of that, but in time that will also come.