Who: Lucifer & Istredd When: Eifstide's period + November Where: Thorne What: The worst people to be dealing with children (Child's Play quest). | Istredd's No Good Very Bad Reckless Experiment Warnings: N/A first thread, angry/yelling/violent Lucifer second thread.
Unfortunately, Lucifer believes otherwise, his thoughts going the same direction but coming out with different results. "Shame you likely still wouldn't have learned your goddamn lesson from it," he snaps, pulling away from Istredd's touch, but less because of the touch itself and more out of releasing Istredd, finally, from the wall.
At least Istredd isn't trying to lie about the danger.
"I'd have preferred you let someone go with you. It didn't have to be me."
Maybe he's become a little less selfish, or maybe he's gained enough trust in other people, or maybe it's a little of both and then some.
But the whole reason he was fine staying back in Thorne is because they're accustomed to splitting duties. Rarely do they actually tag-team an issue at the same location, more often taking separate courses of action with the thrum of the bond between them keeping them in sync.
"I would've gone with you though. Because of the risk."
"I might have." There's no guarantee. Istredd might have stopped learning it once he did get back and got used to normal life again. He's a very stubborn person and he gets tunnel vision, as Lucifer knows very well by now. He is no longer being pinned to the wall so he relaxes. He doesn't immediately cross his arms in a defensive posture or come back with another argument.
"At least you would have been able to say I told you so for the next eight hundred years." He reaches out to snag Lucifer's shirt cuff. Not his arm or his hand, out of respect that he's still in trouble over this, but for a point of contact somewhere, his fingers trailing the fabric.
"I'm sorry. I know I make it difficult." Istredd never apologizes unless he means it, mostly because he likes to stand by his argument for being right instead. But in this case, he's gotten enough people yelling at him from all sides to know he wasn't at his best. "I thought it was the right thing."
"I tell people you're not." It's not his fault if they don't believe him. The people closest to Istredd do know that he has a reckless streak a mile long. Lucifer is just obviously difficult, Istredd is inwardly so.
He takes a step closer to him, still approaching him carefully, getting into his space but not touching him directly yet. He knows to be cautious when Lucifer is upset so he doesn't annoy him more. He tugs gently on his shirt cuff, brushing the back of his fingers against Lucifer's hand.
"If it does, it's no one's fault but mine." Istredd was very insistent that no blame be placed on Kyle. His choice was his. Kyle did say he wouldn't have stopped him, and that's probably true. The two of them are very similar. "Can we talk about the big picture?"
Yeah he already immediately told Kyle he didn't blame him and then went out for drinks because evidently they both needed it. He doesn't know if Kyle would've stopped Istredd or not, doesn't really care. Istredd's problems are his own making.
"I fear there won't be a Dimming this year and what that may mean." While Istredd isn't forgiven exactly, Lucifer settles into discussion, and that's as close as they'll get, sign enough that they continue on, his willingness to talk the big picture--perhaps even his need. He does want to talk about it but like hell he was giving Istredd any justification without trying to get understanding through his thick head first.
He hadn't so much read the network entry, more skimmed for key details, as he's rarely one to ever engage with any form of text present, no matter the length. Usually he gets the details filled in from Istredd on anything important, which makes it funny that this was primarily one of Istredd's.
He's felt through his connection with the Singularity, similar to his early bond with Istredd, but still so very different. Thoughts and feelings expressed like a chaotic splatter painting.
For being so close to the Dimming, the Singularity should not be this alert.
"I fear the same thing. A natural cycle is there for a reason." There was a reason the Singularity typically slowed down and 'slept' briefly every year, for centuries now, as far back in history as Istredd's read. Perhaps they didn't know exactly why, but it seemed to make sense that an entity like that would need rest like any other living thing.
"I have a bad feeling about this." It's honestly what drove his actions more than anything. Something in the pit of his stomach, deep down, felt heavy and like a rock weighing him down. There was something wrong in the air, but he couldn't figure out what. Now he has a better idea of it. "There are so many ways this could go wrong, and probably in more directions than we can perceive now."
They could think of a lot, but the Singularity is a creature in itself, it could react and act in ways that they cannot comprehend. He finally risks taking Lucifer's hand and just holds it for now. He's missed him the past few days, he always does when they're apart. "I reached out to Wanda, Viktor and I both think someone should speak to Umbvagher. He's the closest god for giving answers we've had."
remembered it was Zorne's influence that Lucifer pushed recently not Umbvagher I'm outta pratice lol
"And if it keeps eating land it may just go into a long slumber." Like a food coma. On a cosmic scale. "Much longer than the usual length of the Dimming."
Though that holds no bearing to the magic of the Summoned--at least... it hasn't in the past, but that could also change. Lucifer's Abraxan magic is all set into anchors and not called up from his own power in the moment, but he can't particularly afford any change in his abilities.
"There are more of us now, it's possible our experience in the vision gave it energy. Not to mention the turmoil and overuse of magic in an ongoing war, and the power from gods appearing and causing trouble. I suspect it all could add to the Singularity. Feeding it." If it absorbs power and magic, it is probably a perfect storm for it right now. Not only the Summoned but everything that is changing this sphere and making it more ripe and chaotic. Chaos turns into a maelstrom.
"You know I love to have answers, and I am trying to follow avenues that I can, but I am truly stumped." He is following the gods as an option, he is keeping an eye on the new territory, he is going to see if there are any historical records, there are directions he plans on going in. But it's all just to give himself something to do because the reality is that he can't fix everything.
Which of course is upsetting. The inner turmoil can be felt now, the frustration and desperation to make sense of it, that may explain a little more about his recklessness. The drive to do something, anything. "If we can't stop it we what, watch as it swallows the sphere?"
"It would be hilarious that in order to stop the storms with the territories throwing us in, they just caused more problems down the road," he says, fully sarcastic. He'd think it their just desserts if it didn't potentially screw with Lucifer having a planet to live on. That they potentially fed, maybe even overfed, the Singularity (against their will) is a concern.
How do they draw back its food source then, without gutting themselves? He's maybe pushing that thought back. He's wants to gain power again, not lose what he's already achieved. That consideration is NOT remotely on the table right now.
"There needs to be a balance, we know that," he says, humming to himself, drawing their joined hands to his own face in his idle thought. "For whatever anyone wants to say about that reality, that's a lesson to be learned from it. Overuse or underuse comes with its own problems, related to the Singularity itself. So how do we give a rock indigestion?"
"Well they started all of this in the first place by Summoning us, so of course if they can make it worse, they will." Humans! And he is a human, but he still knows that humans is a reasonable response to that. Istredd's been annoyed about the Summoning since the start. He wants to be here, he wants them to stay there, but it doesn't change that every new group probably destabilizes the sphere more. They rip apart time and space to bring each person here.
He runs his thumb along Lucifer's face when he brings their hands there, keeping that grasp. He always appreciates physicality between them, sometimes he really does need it to even think clearly. It's always better when they're working as a team. Sometimes he forgets that (hmm, wonder when).
"The Summonings need to stop. They won't listen to us, but that would be a place to start." They can't bring more people in, especially as he's noticed the number of people leaving has gone down substantially too. There's more of them sticking around, taking up space and energy. Alucard pointed it out on his post. "Maybe we should stop going into the Horizon. It could be feeding into our energy every time we're in that space it created." But his library! He would hate that.
"Maybe if we can finally convince them that they're feeding their problems instead of what they're trying to achieve," Lucifer says, "but that requires all three territories agreeing, and being at war," har whoops, "means they have little reason to agree to it. If Thorne stops Summoning, Free Cities will take the advantage--with the argument once more surely won't sunder the world--and who the hell knows what Solvunn is up to at any given time, stealthing around as they do, despite finally getting real attention on themselves."
Lucifer has said since the BEGINNING that there was no such thing as a neutral territory, after all.
"Or every time we change it." The Horizon is a thought, but the old gods have a layer somewhere, too. Maybe if they could combine the spaces...
Your stupid dirt, sorry, Istredd, it's not stupid, where's that stand? Istredd had already mentioned a soil sample, and he knows Istredd wouldn't have gone and not gotten any more dirt anyway. They can't get near the crater, especially if it's moving, so they have no way to verify. Is there some lie we can spin?
There's the reason why it's the first time Lucifer's been more words than emotional thought over the bond since Istredd got back. It's the whole reason Lucifer from the get-go pushed the form of communication, though he would never understand the extent of it, or what he was agreeing to at the time. Privacy, security, and never trusting Horizon Instant Messaging.
Use it and the tremors as some form of discouragement towards the Summoning ritual?
"Solvunn thinks it's the will of the gods that the spell works and they're here. Stopping it would require the gods to tell them to stop it." And there's no control of those as far as he knows. It would work to get Solvunn to stop, or maybe the Summoned can try to speak for the gods. In a way, they would be the easiest to handle with the right angle.
"The Free Cities is the problem because they want to destroy the Singularity and don't believe in much of anything outside of their own power. They would see it as a chance to be stronger. And I don't think any of our people have enough sway." Thorne there is a small possibility, but not enough. Stopping the Summoning would be a way, although it's a guess on their part. All of this is a guess, but theorizing is what they do best.
It proves that there's more magic on the soil now then there was before. My initial examination before was that there was no more magic in the crater than anywhere else. That's different now. It's more powerful. So it only confirms what they think. The Singularity is growing in power and it's showing itself in the very earth beneath them. It's effecting more of the world.
"If we could stop the ritual and stop visiting the Horizon, we could see if there's anything visibly showing the change. But the Dimming is too soon, everyone would have to agree to it immediately. If it's not slowing down, I'm not sure we can stop it. It's possible it's already too late."
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At least Istredd isn't trying to lie about the danger.
"I'd have preferred you let someone go with you. It didn't have to be me."
Maybe he's become a little less selfish, or maybe he's gained enough trust in other people, or maybe it's a little of both and then some.
But the whole reason he was fine staying back in Thorne is because they're accustomed to splitting duties. Rarely do they actually tag-team an issue at the same location, more often taking separate courses of action with the thrum of the bond between them keeping them in sync.
"I would've gone with you though. Because of the risk."
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"At least you would have been able to say I told you so for the next eight hundred years." He reaches out to snag Lucifer's shirt cuff. Not his arm or his hand, out of respect that he's still in trouble over this, but for a point of contact somewhere, his fingers trailing the fabric.
"I'm sorry. I know I make it difficult." Istredd never apologizes unless he means it, mostly because he likes to stand by his argument for being right instead. But in this case, he's gotten enough people yelling at him from all sides to know he wasn't at his best. "I thought it was the right thing."
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"And everyone thinks I'm the difficult one in this relationship." Not that he isn't also very difficult, but it isn't just him is the point.
At least Jaskier now also gets the misfortune of realizing that. Hmmmm maybe sharing is caring after all.
He lets Istredd's faint touch linger.
"You always think it's the 'right thing,'" he whispers. "That's the problem, Istredd. One of these days, that's going to catch up to you."
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He takes a step closer to him, still approaching him carefully, getting into his space but not touching him directly yet. He knows to be cautious when Lucifer is upset so he doesn't annoy him more. He tugs gently on his shirt cuff, brushing the back of his fingers against Lucifer's hand.
"If it does, it's no one's fault but mine." Istredd was very insistent that no blame be placed on Kyle. His choice was his. Kyle did say he wouldn't have stopped him, and that's probably true. The two of them are very similar. "Can we talk about the big picture?"
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"I fear there won't be a Dimming this year and what that may mean." While Istredd isn't forgiven exactly, Lucifer settles into discussion, and that's as close as they'll get, sign enough that they continue on, his willingness to talk the big picture--perhaps even his need. He does want to talk about it but like hell he was giving Istredd any justification without trying to get understanding through his thick head first.
He hadn't so much read the network entry, more skimmed for key details, as he's rarely one to ever engage with any form of text present, no matter the length. Usually he gets the details filled in from Istredd on anything important, which makes it funny that this was primarily one of Istredd's.
He's felt through his connection with the Singularity, similar to his early bond with Istredd, but still so very different. Thoughts and feelings expressed like a chaotic splatter painting.
For being so close to the Dimming, the Singularity should not be this alert.
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"I have a bad feeling about this." It's honestly what drove his actions more than anything. Something in the pit of his stomach, deep down, felt heavy and like a rock weighing him down. There was something wrong in the air, but he couldn't figure out what. Now he has a better idea of it. "There are so many ways this could go wrong, and probably in more directions than we can perceive now."
They could think of a lot, but the Singularity is a creature in itself, it could react and act in ways that they cannot comprehend. He finally risks taking Lucifer's hand and just holds it for now. He's missed him the past few days, he always does when they're apart. "I reached out to Wanda, Viktor and I both think someone should speak to Umbvagher. He's the closest god for giving answers we've had."
remembered it was Zorne's influence that Lucifer pushed recently not Umbvagher I'm outta pratice lol
"And if it keeps eating land it may just go into a long slumber." Like a food coma. On a cosmic scale. "Much longer than the usual length of the Dimming."
Though that holds no bearing to the magic of the Summoned--at least... it hasn't in the past, but that could also change. Lucifer's Abraxan magic is all set into anchors and not called up from his own power in the moment, but he can't particularly afford any change in his abilities.
He's not interested in Umbvagher.
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"You know I love to have answers, and I am trying to follow avenues that I can, but I am truly stumped." He is following the gods as an option, he is keeping an eye on the new territory, he is going to see if there are any historical records, there are directions he plans on going in. But it's all just to give himself something to do because the reality is that he can't fix everything.
Which of course is upsetting. The inner turmoil can be felt now, the frustration and desperation to make sense of it, that may explain a little more about his recklessness. The drive to do something, anything. "If we can't stop it we what, watch as it swallows the sphere?"
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How do they draw back its food source then, without gutting themselves? He's maybe pushing that thought back. He's wants to gain power again, not lose what he's already achieved. That consideration is NOT remotely on the table right now.
"There needs to be a balance, we know that," he says, humming to himself, drawing their joined hands to his own face in his idle thought. "For whatever anyone wants to say about that reality, that's a lesson to be learned from it. Overuse or underuse comes with its own problems, related to the Singularity itself. So how do we give a rock indigestion?"
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He runs his thumb along Lucifer's face when he brings their hands there, keeping that grasp. He always appreciates physicality between them, sometimes he really does need it to even think clearly. It's always better when they're working as a team. Sometimes he forgets that (hmm, wonder when).
"The Summonings need to stop. They won't listen to us, but that would be a place to start." They can't bring more people in, especially as he's noticed the number of people leaving has gone down substantially too. There's more of them sticking around, taking up space and energy. Alucard pointed it out on his post. "Maybe we should stop going into the Horizon. It could be feeding into our energy every time we're in that space it created." But his library! He would hate that.
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Lucifer has said since the BEGINNING that there was no such thing as a neutral territory, after all.
"Or every time we change it." The Horizon is a thought, but the old gods have a layer somewhere, too. Maybe if they could combine the spaces...
Your stupid dirt, sorry, Istredd, it's not stupid, where's that stand? Istredd had already mentioned a soil sample, and he knows Istredd wouldn't have gone and not gotten any more dirt anyway. They can't get near the crater, especially if it's moving, so they have no way to verify. Is there some lie we can spin?
There's the reason why it's the first time Lucifer's been more words than emotional thought over the bond since Istredd got back. It's the whole reason Lucifer from the get-go pushed the form of communication, though he would never understand the extent of it, or what he was agreeing to at the time. Privacy, security, and never trusting Horizon Instant Messaging.
Use it and the tremors as some form of discouragement towards the Summoning ritual?
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"The Free Cities is the problem because they want to destroy the Singularity and don't believe in much of anything outside of their own power. They would see it as a chance to be stronger. And I don't think any of our people have enough sway." Thorne there is a small possibility, but not enough. Stopping the Summoning would be a way, although it's a guess on their part. All of this is a guess, but theorizing is what they do best.
It proves that there's more magic on the soil now then there was before. My initial examination before was that there was no more magic in the crater than anywhere else. That's different now. It's more powerful. So it only confirms what they think. The Singularity is growing in power and it's showing itself in the very earth beneath them. It's effecting more of the world.
"If we could stop the ritual and stop visiting the Horizon, we could see if there's anything visibly showing the change. But the Dimming is too soon, everyone would have to agree to it immediately. If it's not slowing down, I'm not sure we can stop it. It's possible it's already too late."