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Lucifer ([personal profile] thedevilwhorose) wrote in [community profile] abraxaslogs2023-01-01 12:53 am

am I a villain or a saint?

Who: Lucifer, others
When: December January shhhh
Where: Thorne, the Horizon
What: Closed for the moment; will open more later
Warnings: Wrathful teenagers, discussions of violence... Not in the same thread.



(Closed for the moment.)
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[personal profile] magicalarchaeologist 2023-01-27 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
Istredd's response to that childish annoyance is fond amusement and the mental equivalent of trying to soothe an annoyed cat. He knows that he's right. It's fine. He isn't going to belabor the point.

Lucifer does have more close acquaintances. Istredd has a list of people he gets along with, people he teaches, intellectual connections like Stephen, but he has Yennefer, Lucifer, and Wanda as close. And obviously, Yennefer and Istredd's version of friendship is very complicated. It's not a lack of being interested in others, he simply spends more of his time focused on his goals. Reading, studying, teaching, theorizing. Almost no socializing for socializing's sake.

One of these days he might need to get himself a life.

Istredd does glance up when he sees the lightning, knowing exactly what that is in reference to. He never really stops thinking about the Cage his friend was trapped in and how much it makes him want to cause violence toward someone for the first time. Lucifer is ignoring it so he will too.

"That sounds like a challenge to me. Why don't you try? You have all this open space you've made."
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[personal profile] magicalarchaeologist 2023-01-27 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
"Obviously you prefer my tower, for good reason." Istredd is allowed to be proud of one thing, and that one thing is his tower of books. It really was a rare creative endeavor for him and sprang naturally from his subconscious. Despite not being particularly social, he somehow created a domain designed for other people to feel comfortable in. Go figure.

"You're not a hypocrite, you've had other things on your mind." More important than being able to create the Horizon in a particular way. They really have been busy. Istredd keeps up with him on his meandering, glancing around as he does, taking in all the details that are unknown to him as he does. He isn't getting distracted by Lucifer himself, he wants to give his domain the attention it deserves.

"Did you have the island of snakes because you wanted them or because you thought it fit your whole snake identity metapor?"
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[personal profile] magicalarchaeologist 2023-01-28 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
"I don't have a problem with snakes, but too many of anything is a bad idea." That was exactly what he thought when he went into his tower to find a ridiculous amount of ravens. The five that stuck around are acceptable, he's even come to like them. He isn't surprised that Lucifer felt like he had to be a certain way. That seems to be the story of his life. A rebel against what others expect and yet also fulfilling that expectation.

Istredd is surprised by the glowworm cave because everything up until now has seemed large and this is contained, but he looks up and around and he finds it truly beautiful. It may remind him a little bit of the eels, in terms of worm figures that glow, but there is something very intimate about this space. Or that is how it feels like to him.

He notes all of the warding, his kind and Lucifer's, and realizes this is where he has been meeting people given that. His protected space. Istredd finds it interesting this is what he came up for it. He looks at Lucifer, laughing under the glow of the constantly-alive ceiling, and smiles, warm and affectionate.

"I like it. I'm surprised you'd want to be in such close quarters with people." There is space, obviously, but it's not like the tower where there could be half a mile in between people. Istredd's eyes almost look like the electric blue of the ceiling, glowing in this space as it is shining off his already bright tinge.
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[personal profile] magicalarchaeologist 2023-01-29 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
"No one wants to go to the island of four-thousand snakes, Lucifer. Least of all the snakes wanting humans to show up." Psychically or not, there would be a good reason to keep that separate. Istredd did think that it was likely it was a real place, like everything else here. Strange wonders of the world that they are.

"Since I'm here." Istredd gestures and immediately adds his own active wards to the space in here, strengthening what Lucifer's done. While his tower is public, there are spaces in it that are not, it's simply not known to most. There's at least one space that not even Lucifer knows about, in case Istredd (and Yennefer) need a completely quiet and alone space.

"You really don't want anything a little more comfortable in here? It's a very dramatic meeting space and I get that. You could make yourself a throne."
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[personal profile] magicalarchaeologist 2023-01-31 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
"But would the snakes be human enthusiasts? I doubt it." Also there is the fact that it seems unlikely he could keep that many creatures going. It is possible that not everything in this place would require the amount of consciousness that having living creatures around does, but he wouldn't waste the energy on that. "You could always pick your favorite snakes to slither around here. A compromise."

Lucifer's perching here, typical. Istredd smiles at him, shaking his head. There are barely perches in here though, he really needs a better one than that. "Ah, yes, and appearances matter in your glowing meeting cave." Istredd can only hope that none of Lucifer's enemies end up in here. Too close. I would think you don't like enclosed spaces.
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another to add to the 'istredd is tired of him being hot' list

[personal profile] magicalarchaeologist 2023-01-31 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
Lucifer, Istredd says disapprovingly after witnessing the anaconda in question. I thought we agreed you were going to try to kill people less in here. And that includes having a big snake eat them. Try to kill people less, like it's on the same level as common suggestions like try to be nicer. For Lucifer, it's about the same thing.

Istredd turns to face him and he at least is very aware of how close they are in a private glowing cave. It is humorous to him, how aware of that he is, it has to be funny because otherwise it's just sad. He doesn't back away though, just tilts his head and remembers being repressed is the best way out of this. "Can I see your wings?"
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[personal profile] magicalarchaeologist 2023-01-31 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
Istredd gives him his most withering and exhausted stare. Very 'why are you like this' energy mixed with 'I wash my hands of it' acceptance. Maybe one day Lucifer will come in here to find his giant snake has a bow around its neck or cat ears, just to make it funnier.

"I can't believe you put angel warding on your own space, I get you're some high and mighty archangel, but there are other ways to protect yourself." Istredd also isn't sure if the other angels he's worried about would come here seeking violence, he doesn't like that idea. But it's unlikely. It's the Horizon. Only some people (SOME PEOPLE) end up with violence in this place.

"I hate to point out the obvious, Lucifer, but we're in the Horizon. You can make me able to see anything that you want to."
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[personal profile] magicalarchaeologist 2023-01-31 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
"I'm assuming that's the one who is friends with Dean Winchester. Do you think he'd come looking for you?" With all the Mark of Cain drama going on, Istredd could see how that would be cause for concern. Although he doesn't know if Castiel is dangerous or if he's just annoying. If he cares as much about Dean as Lucifer thinks, he probably would want to find any information he could on the Mark. Even walking into the belly of the beast ... or an anaconda.

Istredd was mostly doing their usual banter thing and then he remembers a moment too late what Lucifer told him about his difficulty in the Horizon. And his general difficulty when it came to seeing himself. He has the good sense to be genuinely apologetic over their bond for bringing up something he already knows is a problem.

He has trouble sometimes with keeping himself from picking away, wanting to know more, wanting to see all of Lucifer.

They are close enough he barely has to move to put a gentle hand on Lucifer's arm, only for one second, and drop it. He still tries to be as respectful as possible with boundaries, it was meant as a sorry of its own.

"I like it, your Horizon. It may not be as homey, but it's interesting."
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[personal profile] magicalarchaeologist 2023-01-31 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
Istredd watches him walk away for a moment before following along. Sometimes it really is better to shrug off moments that don't ultimately matter, and he's fine with that. Lucifer did save the best for last, at least what would be the best for Istredd. His eyes brighten as he takes in the limestone and peaks, the plants sandwiched in between, what looks like might be caves in between them down below.

It actually makes him think of the broken monolith, where he and Geralt made their discovery about the true nature of them. There had been a large cavern below, jagged rocks, and then a monster. Istredd turns as he walks to get a better view of it and he's always liked the concept of wilderness, it just never was something he spent the time to experience. Too lost in his books and his caves and his monoliths. Rarely did he see the world.

"Typical, you making an option with endless places to perch." Istredd smiles at him. He doesn't have to say out loud that this is his favorite, or that he likes this. It is openly expressed in their bond.
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[personal profile] magicalarchaeologist 2023-01-31 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
"I keep thinking you're more like a cat and then you say roosting." Roost makes him think of a bird. Wings do too. But Lucifer doesn't like birds. Istredd rarely visits other domains, not even of his friends. Maybe he should get out more, but it is easy to linger in his cozy and familiar tower. Typical Istredd. He has come a long way in getting out there, but only in the ways he feels he has to.

"She's gone through some dark and gloomy times." Istredd likes her spot though, apparently he prefers forests and trees if he has to be out in nature. There is something very calming about this place too. He thinks Wanda's doing better though, she seems to be on the upswing, although it would be hard to go down deeper.

"I think because I assumed I would have my long lifespan, I didn't consider exploring much. I'm sure there are many wonders of my sphere too, but I've only ever read about them in books." And that has always been enough. Istredd stays on the outskirts of acknowledging the world. He spoke with the people and studied his rocks but he never involved himself directly with anything.

"That wasn't always the plan." A feeling associated with only Yennefer swirls in his gut and in his nostalgia. At one point as a stupid youth he thought the two of them would run off together and have adventures. But his kind of adventures. Slow suicide is what she called it. "Why did you pick these exact places?"
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[personal profile] magicalarchaeologist 2023-02-01 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
"You're probably right. But maybe I would physically read in a more interesting location." That seems like the only likely option. Istredd doesn't know where he would be in a few centuries though. He knows that Stregobor had hopes that he would come back and possibly live up to the ambitions he had for him. He would probably be proud of Istredd's actions here, a problematic aspect he tries not to think of or he may go back to hiding in the library out of pure spite.

Something the two of them probably have in common with their respective bad fathers, even if he was only a surrogate one in Istredd's case.

"Created by your father, you mean." If it isn't man-made or angel-made, everything is then made by God. He supposes it's a good thing Lucifer doesn't hate literally everything God created as that would make his life just one big pile of hate. "What would you make for yourself, given the choice? Outside of the giant snake."
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[personal profile] magicalarchaeologist 2023-02-10 03:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Istredd can sense the change, he is after all a very perceptive person. It's not as if he has no understanding. The only time Lucifer has managed to get him truly annoyed was pricking at his own raising, where he didn't expect himself to be sensitive or defensive at all. Geralt does that a little too, with his open dislike of the Brotherhood. Very much the energy of 'I can hate my people but don't talk shit about my people, outsider.'

"Maybe nothing original in essence, to you, but something can still be yours. If you are using pieces of his creations designed in a way of your own, it counts. The snake, our ravens."
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[personal profile] magicalarchaeologist 2023-02-17 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
"I'd like to see those. You've already shown me more in the past few minutes than I've seen in my entire life." It's sad, Istredd does know that. He mostly didn't care much, he went about his life, he had his priorities. Seeing the sphere wasn't one of them. He visited several kingdoms, he went places, but admiring them, that wasn't in his mind.

"I'm sure there were wonders of the sphere I'm from too, but Yenna would know about that more than me."